Last week I spoke of greater Israel, the promises made to Abraham, and a narrow definition of Israel. This week I would like to further embellish the topic with a promise of future Israel of a more broad definition.
— The Hashemite kingdom of Jordan
We have already looked into the southern and northern boundaries of Israel. The western boundary is pretty much the Meditteranean sea. But what about the eastern boundary?
There is a statement in Genesis that is usually interpreted as the four generations lasting 430 years:
Gen. 15:16:: But in the fourth generation they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete.
Counting of the generations is not so important to me here as the idea that the iniquity of the Amorites increased while Israel was in Egypt. Early in history people lived longer. The Amorites mainly lived to the east of the Jordan River. After the exodus Israel ends up destroying the Amorites.
Jos. 24:8:: I brought you into the land of the Amorites, who dwelt on the other side of the Jordan, and they fought with you. But I gave them into your hand, that you might possess their land, and I destroyed them from before you
Ex. 23:31:: I will set your bounds from the Red Sea to the sea, Philistia, and from the desert to the River. For I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand, and you shall drive them out before you.
The sea, Philistia is the Mediterranean. The River is the Euphrates.
Deut. 1:7:: Turn and take your journey, and go to the mountains of the Amorites, to all the neighboring places in the plain, in the mountains and in the lowland, in the South and on the seacoast, to the land of the Canaanites and to Lebanon, as far as the great river, the River Euphrate
The land of the Amorites went from the River Arnon north to Mount Hermon.
Deut. 3:8:: at that time we took the land from the hand of the two kings of the Amorites who were on this side of the Jordan, from the River Arnon to Mount Hermon
This river was originally the southern border of the land of the Amorites and the northern end of Moab. So this includes in our modern maps northern Jordan and some of Syria.
The Transjordan territory of the Amorites was given to the tribes of Gad, Reuben and Manasseh. We end up hearing that the Amorites ended up moving south of the River Arnon, dispossing the Moabites and Edomites.
The idea of where Kadesh Barnea and the Ascent of Akribbim is questioned by some authers. So boundaries are uncertain and also somewhat fluid over time. Another point is the idea that if boundaries of Israel are dependant on when and where the Amorites dwelt we might have an issue in that the boundaries of God’s land should not be dependant upon where the enemies of Israel once lived or moved to.
I say all of this to suggest that even the narrow definition of Israel some of the modern state of Jordan should be included, much less this wider view which goes all of the way to the Euphrates River.
This kind of leaves King Abdullah II and his land of Trans-Jordan squarely in the cross hairs of historic Iraeli land, either in the narrow or wider view. The Arnon River, also known as Wadi Mujib in Arabic lies about 56 miles south of Amman, Jordan. It empties into the Dead Sea from the eastern side.
Jordan continues to share relative peace with the modern state of Israel. One would not like to see Jordan pulled into a middle east war with Israel.
On the way to the Dead Sea one might notice empty barracks once occupied by jordanean troops. In fact today the waqf troops still control acces and even enforce dress codes on the temple mount. It was during the six day war of 1967 that the Jews got control of Jerusalem and also the West Bank.
I only point out all of this to say that what can happen if zionism tries to push Israeli boundaries to what is historically claimed.
So far I read nothing about zionist ambitions to capture part or all of Jordan for Israeli occupation or annexation.
— The Quibla Dilemma and Islam’s Origins
Much of this section comes directly from information garnished from CIRA International. Dr. Jay Smith and Al Fadi are really the experts here. Dan Gibson has also done extensive research into directions of the quibla’s of early mosques. A quibla is the structure in every mosque which is in the direction of prayer toward mecca.
The Abassid’s destroyed almost 98% of what was originally Islam, according to Dr. Jay. You can listen to this video for more information ‘Petra is the Original Mecca – Mecca – In Search of a Place – Episode 13’. Website: http://www.cirainternational.com
Muhammad himself was a member of the house of Hāshim (Hashem), a subdivision of the Quraysh tribe. This is very interesting since the Jews many times refer to the almighty by the name ‘Hashem’. The origins of Islam are very interesting. I read that Arabic was an offshoot of Aramaic. There is also recent research into the original location of Mecca. In fact Dan Gibson and Al Fadi regularly discuss this on the CIRA international channel. Many early quibla’s faced the direction of Petra, not modern Mecca. We know that it was the Nabateans who were early traders and who lived in this area.
The Ummayadi caliphate was defeated by the Abassid caliphate by around 750 AD. The Umadyadi capital was Damascus, Syria, the Abassid’s capital was Baghdad. This is all interesting history and I certainly don’t claim to be an expert here. My main ‘concern’ here is that Mecca, Saudi Arabia was never the home of Mohammed.
What the rulers of the Arab world know vs. what they openly admit are two different things. After all, the integrity of Islam is at stake if they get the early history, also known as the Standard Islamic Narrative wrong.
Dan Gibson theorizes that during the second Islamic Civil War (683 AD) that the holy city of Islam was moved. Umayyads were Sunni’s ruling from Damascus when qibla’s faced Petra. The Hypothesis is that Ibn Zubayr moved the kabba during war with al-Hajjaj. Abassad’s ruled from Kufa Iraq and now new qibla’s faced Mecca instead after a period of uncertain or inbetween direction.
Let me further suggest that despite relative peace between Israel and Jordan today there are still tensions. I read online that some in Jordan fear the Palestinians living there causing trouble. In early March of this year Jordan with help of the United States air dropped supplies to the beleagured people of Gaza. The air drop resulted in much chaos with some of the supplies landing in the Meditteranean.
— The Rock Principle
Matt. 16:13-18::
When Jesus came into the region of Caesarea Philippi, He asked His disciples, saying, “Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am?” So they said, “Some say John the Baptist, some Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. “And I also say to you that you are Peter (petros), and on this rock (petra) I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.
(Schmidt, Syn., chapter 51, §§ 4-6) difference between petra (f) (πέτρα), the massive living rock, and petros (m) (πέτρος), a detached but large fragment,
Based upon this definition Yeshua then told Simon Bar-Jonah you are now named petros, a detached large fragment and upon this petra, the massive living rock I will build my church.
Living rock is sometimes interpreted as rock-cut architecture. There is such architecture at Petra and also other places. The reference to Yeshua is that Peter will be like a cut out rock on the hillside. We have a very good picture of living rock at Mount Rushmore in South Dakota where four U.S. Presidents are carved into a mountain. Stone tends to last a long time, depending upon which stone is hewn. If you want something that is going to last for millenia then carve it in stone.
Sometimes Petra is also identified as an eastern Kadesh (Barnea). As in many archeological sites, there are disputes as to the actual location. I am bringing this up to explain that the historical boundaries of ancient Israel are not 100% certain. Sometimes we need a rock of revelation to properly understand God’s promises and boundaries for which we claim things.
Even with something like Islam there are uncertainties of where things began. I believe that most mosques contained living rock, that is rock carved into different geometrical shapes. Even the sacred stone in Mecca is a rock. But we must never worship a rock or image whether carved out of stone or fallen from the heavens. Any prophet, including that claimed of Mohammed needs a solid foundation so that what is carved out of stone makes sense and can be properly interpreted and extended to already existing revelation which is solid. Mohammed might very well started out with a firm foundation, having been exposed to Christianity from Kadisha’s family where there were Christians. Somewhere either he or his legacy got corrupted by false doctrine so as to no longer be on solid rock.
When we claim this or that, if we are wrong or missing the mark, so to speak, we can create confusion, animosity, and even conflict. That is what we see these days in many places in the world. False claims and hopes not built on a firm foundation, even the rock of our salvation. Apostle Peter stated it this way:
1 Pet. 2:7-8::
Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious; but to those who are disobedient,[fn]
“The stone (lithos) which the builders rejected
Has become the chief cornerstone,”[Ps. 118:22]
and
“A stone (lithos) of stumbling
And a rock (petra) of offense.”[Is. 8:14]
They stumble, being disobedient to the word, to which they also were appointed.
Much of Israel is rock and Jordan has many rocks and cliffs as well. If what our CIRA researchers say is true there was revelation afforded to the east of Israel. The whole idea of east toward the Euphrates includes the lands of Jordan even to the land of modern day Iraq.
Sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Israel
https://www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-exodus-amorites.htm
https://bibleatlas.org/arnon.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wadi_Mujib
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanian_campaign_(1967)
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/48639/is-the-four-hundred-years-the-equivalent-of-the-four-generations-in-the-gen
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hashimite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQeK_sb8Ozs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabataeans
https://www.history.com/news/sunni-shia-divide-islam-muslim
https://www.britannica.com/topic/history-of-Arabia-31558/The-Umayyad-and-Abbasid-periods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0wzFgGAnKs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CavacGECZ0
https://www.npr.org/2024/03/01/1235277071/gaza-jordan-airdrop-aid